Magical Chase Waiting List

[Black Tiger]

Garwood mentioned that he bought the entire stock of several SCDs (M&M3, Godzilla, Super Zonk, Bonk 3, etc). If they popped up in stores, he was the distributor at that point, not NEC or TTI.

What did he define as "at that point"? While TTi was still in business and before they had the chance to sell any of those titles to distributors themselves?

[jayamine]

No, I recall 500 units each of those last five titles was the correct manufacturing quantity. Making those the rarest games made. Funny, that's not how they've been valued in the collector market.

The above is a quotation. The five titles in reference are : Bonk 3CD, Super Zonk, Dynastic, M&M3, and Godzilla. Here's more.

Anyway, I looked at it and it showed 500 each were made of Dynastic Hero, Bonk CD, Might & Magic III, Super Air Zonk and Godzilla. All of which we bought for $xx.xx each! Come to think of it, we had to release those. TTi did not.

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I'm assuming the items were all manufactured before bulldozer day and releases dates were staggered artificially to prolong the dwindling lifespan.

[nat]

500 units is an extremely low print run for a video game. I had always been under the impression the lowest print run on a Turbo game was 1500 units which is, still, quite low.

Either way, it makes perfect sense those five games are technically the "rarest" of the bunch: you don't see copies of Godzilla or Bonk 3 CD up for sale nearly as often as you see copies of, say, Magical Chase.

[esteban]

500 units is an extremely low print run for a video game. I had always been under the impression the lowest print run on a Turbo game was 1500 units which is, still, quite low.

Either way, it makes perfect sense those five games are technically the "rarest" of the bunch: you don't see copies of Godzilla or Bonk 3 CD up for sale nearly as often as you see copies of, say, Magical Chase.

Hahahahahhahaha.

[jayamine]

:-D

[alexsduo]

And now, the 5 games mentioned, are in the $1000 dollar range.

Oh, and someone will for sure reference this thread on ebay. 

[jayamine]

Nah, only Dynastic goes for near that. I can't imagine Godzilla ever going that high. We know Dungeon Explorer was 1000 (but the second run was missing original instructions). TZD bought about 250 each of Terraforming and Beyond Shadowgate, but those two definitely hit stores, so the actual number will be much harder to come by. And what about Exile 2? SOmeone would have to track down Vic for that one. He's over at Sunsoft now, I hear. (Maybe they'll get bought by Konami next.)

Also, certain other things to consider ... Bonk 3 had a chip release easily doubling the total number access to that game. And come to think of it, since the chip came out almost alongside the CD, I bet Steve has that number too!

M&M3 came out on several platforms, so it's not hard to find in general (hence it's only valuable to Turbo Collectors).

Beyond Shadowgate on the other hand was  Duo exclusive (the PC version was cancelled ... even though the Duo version was technically a port).

And there's always popularity and hype to consider. Take a game like Flintstones 2 for NES. I'm sure they did 1500-3000 easy, but that games sells for well over a thousand just on notoriety.

Or what about people claiming the Gold N64 Zelda cart is rare even though they made 100,000? And that thing still goes for fifty bucks in box  ... because it's Zelda. 

Lots of factors ... that's why playing with the second hand game market is called "speculating."

[vestcoat]

And now, the 5 games mentioned, are in the $1000 dollar range.

Oh, and someone will for sure reference this thread on ebay.  

Everything we do on this board (with the possible exceptions of raffles, homebrews, system repairs, and fighting) slowly drives prices up.  We review games, which creates hype.  We answer "how-much-is-this-worth?" questions and post meaningless price guides, codifying each game's value and creating fewer good deals.  We share the locations of our secret brick-and-mortar stores and post links to the rare online dealers with cheap goods.  We kindly inform greenhorns that "ah, hey dude, your 'complete collection' is missing the Players' Stats book. And those Working Designs games had cardboard sleeves."  We heighten the sense of scarcity with "waiting list" threads and desperate WTB posts.

I used to worry about the consequences of some of these actions, but it's a lost cause.  Regardless, whatever information we post here is disseminated to the rest of the internet very slowly.  As Jayamine pointed out, the retro bros surfing Racketboy and Wikipedia don't have their facts straight; they probably never will.  The whippersnappers of "Generation Me", or "Generation O", or whatever you want to call it, are too busy texting and drinking PBR to do any research.  We've been posting concise lists of the different CD/Turbochip packaging schemes as long as I've been here, yet noobs continue to raise the question almost once a month.

[SignOfZeta]

You make some good points. I'm going to stop posting in this tread and get in on the import JRPG action in Plays Well Together thread. Too much talk about stupid f*cking pieces of paper, not enough actual obeying.

[Arkhan]

its because the average person is also a gamer.

and the average person is a dumbass.

[DragonmasterDan]

Everything we do on this board (with the possible exceptions of raffles, homebrews, system repairs, and fighting) slowly drives prices up.  We review games, which creates hype.  We answer "how-much-is-this-worth?" questions and post meaningless price guides, codifying each game's value and creating fewer good deals.  We share the locations of our secret brick-and-mortar stores and post links to the rare online dealers with cheap goods.  We kindly inform greenhorns that "ah, hey dude, your 'complete collection' is missing the Players' Stats book. And those Working Designs games had cardboard sleeves."  We heighten the sense of scarcity with "waiting list" threads and desperate WTB posts.

I used to worry about the consequences of some of these actions, but it's a lost cause.  Regardless, whatever information we post here is disseminated to the rest of the internet very slowly.  As Jayamine pointed out, the retro bros surfing Racketboy and Wikipedia don't have their facts straight; they probably never will.  The whippersnappers of "Generation Me", or "Generation O", or whatever you want to call it, are too busy texting and drinking PBR to do any research.  We've been posting concise lists of the different CD/Turbochip packaging schemes as long as I've been here, yet noobs continue to raise the question almost once a month.

This is why I didn't have a problem with producing some sort of a general price list. Because this information sneaks out to begin with, perhaps more importantly because people will use sites like the extremely flawed videogames.pricecharting.com as a reference if the community doesn't provide the information.

[alexsduo]

If I had slightly more drive, I would take a list of all turbob releases cd and hu, and then make a price list, and then for the price, naturally put the cymbol for infinity.  Then I, along with most of you, would be filthy rich, then I would retire and stroke my priceless games once a day with a white cotton glove.  Then, I would do pce, and every other vintage system.  

[jayamine]

You wouldn't be filthy rich unless you sold them. And if you're rich without them, what would you stroke then?

(One day, I'll learn when to keep my mouth shut.)

[alexsduo]

obviously you know nothing of the stock market.  You can leverage, borrow and steal, and it just has to look good on paper
This would be very similar, ima just go to my bank, and show them my "assets"

[jayamine]

touche LMAO