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Re: Cover Art PCE vs Turbo Grafx
« Reply #105 on: August 25, 2011, 07:50:53 AM »
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Re: Cover Art PCE vs Turbo Grafx
« Reply #106 on: August 25, 2011, 10:47:17 AM »
They did a good job on the font, looks classy.

I agree with that part, the font & titling is very cool.  I just don't care for the arrangement of "props" in the illustration or the inset screen shot.  To me, it looks less like a cover and more like an advert.

But, to each his own!
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Re: Cover Art PCE vs Turbo Grafx
« Reply #107 on: August 25, 2011, 11:49:56 AM »


Conversation in the hallways of NEC USA:

"Look, with the Turbo CD line of games, we're trying to convey more power, more music, higher energy!  So, when you're drawing the Final Zone II cover, this time I want you to... use a lot more pencil crayons than usual!"

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Re: Cover Art PCE vs Turbo Grafx
« Reply #108 on: August 25, 2011, 02:05:16 PM »
Wow, I'm not sure which Final Zone 2 cover I dislike more.  The US one is bad for clearly obvious reasons, but the JP one is rather bland with lots of muted colors.  It would be better if it were in black and white.  Also, different artwork would help.

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« Reply #109 on: August 25, 2011, 06:32:38 PM »
Wow, I'm not sure which Final Zone 2 cover I dislike more.  The US one is bad for clearly obvious reasons, but the JP one is rather bland with lots of muted colors.  It would be better if it were in black and white.  Also, different artwork would help.

Yeah, maybe it's the colors, but I don't like the Jp version either, but, in general, it's probably better then the US version I guess.  :/

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Re: Cover Art PCE vs Turbo Grafx
« Reply #110 on: August 26, 2011, 12:18:30 AM »
Even the japanese one doesn't win any awards for the best cover ever, compared to its US counterpart it still is uncountable lightyears ahead.
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Re: Cover Art PCE vs Turbo Grafx
« Reply #111 on: August 26, 2011, 06:39:33 AM »
I prefer the US version of Final Zone II - just because its cheese and sucktitude matches the gameplay better. 

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« Reply #112 on: August 27, 2011, 08:18:31 AM »
Final Zone II is not good. Neither cover is impressive at all. They both utterly fail, but for very different reasons.
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Re: Cover Art PCE vs Turbo Grafx
« Reply #113 on: August 27, 2011, 01:18:14 PM »
I always loved the Japanese Final Zone II cover. Thanks for bringing it back to my attention, I haven't seen it in years.

There's something magically dorky about the US cover that brings a smile to the heart :) .
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Re: Cover Art PCE vs Turbo Grafx
« Reply #114 on: August 28, 2011, 04:14:26 AM »
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Final Zone II

Oh my shit. Talk about the utter encapsulation of what sucked about the TG-16. I know I said that about the Valis game with the tranny barbarian on the cover, but...here it is again. I also have vague memories of this game having the worst dub of all time.

Since I'm not one of those age of post-irony hipster douchebags that can only appreciate something if its a complete failure, I have no admiration, respect, desire, nostalgia whatever for US Final Zone II. Its just plain sucks.

Oh, the man hours that went into making this and other TG-16 titles suck more...what sort of internal denial issues these hacks must have had to develop in order to sleep at night? I mean, US Cosmic Fantasy II. That one is especially baffling because the IIRC the CD art is original Japanese and looks pretty good. The actual cover they used for the outside though is vomit inducing. One theory that has been posited before is that US publishers might not have had access to original art. In the case of CF2 though its obvious that they did, and for some reason paid money (obviously not a lot) to make a garbage cover.

Maybe there is some 80s era NEC style document that says, "When designing covers for TG-16™ games, please refrain from any obviously "manga-influenced" art, as it might not play well in Oklahoma or South Dakota, where it might be interpreted as "some ching chong kong bullshit". Its has to be racism/xenophobia or fear of racism/xenophobia because you have to be aesthetically retarded to the max to prefer some of these US covers.

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Re: Cover Art PCE vs Turbo Grafx
« Reply #115 on: August 28, 2011, 04:37:04 AM »

Maybe there is some 80s era NEC style document that says, "When designing covers for TG-16™ games, please refrain from any obviously "manga-influenced" art, as it might not play well in Oklahoma or South Dakota, where it might be interpreted as "some ching chong kong bullshit".

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Re: Cover Art PCE vs Turbo Grafx
« Reply #116 on: August 28, 2011, 05:13:41 AM »
Oh, the man hours that went into making this and other TG-16 titles suck more...what sort of internal denial issues these hacks must have had to develop in order to sleep at night? I mean, US Cosmic Fantasy II. That one is especially baffling because the IIRC the CD art is original Japanese and looks pretty good. The actual cover they used for the outside though is vomit inducing. One theory that has been posited before is that US publishers might not have had access to original art. In the case of CF2 though its obvious that they did, and for some reason paid money (obviously not a lot) to make a garbage cover.

Cosmic Fantasy 2 makes some sense in that they obviously just wanted their games to fit in with the Turbo library. Thankfully, they stuck to Japanese art with their Sega-CD releases. :)
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Re: Cover Art PCE vs Turbo Grafx
« Reply #117 on: August 28, 2011, 02:34:27 PM »
I really dig this thread! Japanese PCE artwork is all over the TG 16 ones.. A Huge example for me is Tiger Road

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Re: Cover Art PCE vs Turbo Grafx
« Reply #118 on: August 28, 2011, 07:44:38 PM »
I really dig this thread! Japanese PCE artwork is all over the TG 16 ones.. A Huge example for me is Tiger Road

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Re: Cover Art PCE vs Turbo Grafx
« Reply #119 on: August 29, 2011, 08:17:49 AM »
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Final Zone II (PCE Pic htp://pcengine.co.uk)

Tora He No Michi / Tiger Road (TG16 Pic htp://pcengine.co.uk)