Sad state of the PCE entry in Wikipedia

[RR1980]

I have always wondered why on wiki the PC Engine never had its own page and instead it's just a sub category within the TG16 page even though the PCE was way bigger than the TG16 in terms of success back in the day, game library size and significance. 

[Tatsujin]

Switch to an other Language, problem solved

[spenoza]

I feel like we should nominate a single authority figure, so long as the nominee agrees to help, here on the boards to have ultimate authority for whatever we, collectively, come up with. Do we want to do a total rewrite from scratch or do we want to copy the existing WP article and use that as a starting point? We should look at the SNES and MD articles to see if they have a consistent style which we can tap into to make our work commensurate.

[turbogrfxfan]

Using the original wiki article as a template is a real good idea. I mean hack the shit out of it but still. Or start an outline and use the wiki. Just as a reference. I say it shouldn't be one person. But I'd say key people should step up and help. I feel that it would fall into place.

[Arkhan]

Example: "The TurboGrafx-16 was obviously inferior to its SNES and Genesis competitors as it was lacking a second background layer."

So how about to add this on the Wiki Neo Geo site:

Example: "The Neo Geo was obviously inferior to its PCE, SNES and Genesis competitors as it was lacking a background layer at all."

and then we can go to the Sega site and go

"The Sega CD was inferior to the PCE because it was a hacky frigging disaster"

oh. wait.

and having one person do the whole thing defeats the wiki concept entirely....

we could always just make a different Wiki where only PCEFXers can diddle it, and then once its done, implant it onto Wikipedia.

[rag-time4]

I dont like the idea of crafting a new page first, nor do i like the idea of having an authority figure. I think the best thing for us to do is chip away at the article the way nat did.

An independent pce wiki site would definitely be worthwhile, but so is improving the wikipedia article.

[soop]

Hmmm... I don't know, but I'd prefer a japanese-centric edition, showing a photo of each console, and with the "card matrix" showing what can do what.

Aside from that, initially at least, I think the wiki structure is quite strict.

[ccovell]

If you're going to be adding PCE content, be sure to use Magweasel as a source: http://magweasel.com/category/i-love-the-pc-engine/  At least he backs up his info with PCE Fan magazine data.

When I wanted to add information about the Game Pocket Computer to Wikipedia, moderators wouldn't accept any of my sources, because all the authoritative sites were in Japanese.  Okay you try finding English print articles about an obscure 1984 Japanese handheld...   

[soop]

If you're going to be adding PCE content, be sure to use Magweasel as a source: http://magweasel.com/category/i-love-the-pc-engine/  At least he backs up his info with PCE Fan magazine data.

When I wanted to add information about the Game Pocket Computer to Wikipedia, moderators wouldn't accept any of my sources, because all the authoritative sites were in Japanese.  Okay you try finding English print articles about an obscure 1984 Japanese handheld...   

I think most of the authoritative sources for PCE are regular posters here ^____^

[turbogrfxfan]

If you're going to be adding PCE content, be sure to use Magweasel as a source: http://magweasel.com/category/i-love-the-pc-engine/  At least he backs up his info with PCE Fan magazine data.

When I wanted to add information about the Game Pocket Computer to Wikipedia, moderators wouldn't accept any of my sources, because all the authoritative sites were in Japanese.  Okay you try finding English print articles about an obscure 1984 Japanese handheld...   

wow man thats awesome site.  i never checked out magweasel. very very very cool!

[Tatsujin]

Wiki can be such a shitter sometimes, since those operating peeps there can be such ignorants when it comes to unknown land.

[spenoza]

I think they would argue that the English language version of the wiki should focus on topic of relevance to the English speaking world, and while foreign game systems can be of interest, information should come from sources written in the language the readers can understand and independently verify (by reading on their own if need be). I don't entirely agree with this view, but I suspect that's part of it.

[Tatsujin]

That's a bad part.

[apachacha]

Example: "The TurboGrafx-16 was obviously inferior to its SNES and Genesis competitors as it was lacking a second background layer."

I realy hate this kinda crap.

[xelement5x]

Yeah, there's a lot of stuff that I'm only kind of figuring out, but there's no really source or timeline like a wiki page to dig through.  Like, what are the Hudson volumes, why are they numbered that way?  What about Games Express games and the weird extra cards they needed to package with their games?  Is there a list of all games that use save functionality?  Games that use the Arcade card? 

I know pcedaisakusen has a lot of info, so does this website and the PCE bible, but none of it is in a single spot.  Heck, if the PCE bible or here had a wiki instance that covered this stuff would be badass.