are the Bit wars dead.

[TurboExpressFan]

I have noticed on many comparison videos on YouTube comparing games that were on the PC engine/TurboGrafx, Genesis, and SNES that there is at least one person who starts to bring up bits and how the TurboGrafx is actually 8-bit just because its CPU is not 16-bit. Which I find aggravating and strange seeing as consoles since the PS1 have relied on GPU's just like how the TurboGrafx did. consoles these days run off of 32-64 bit CPU's so by there thinking modern consoles are still 32-64 bit which makes no sense it is the GPU that matters right? What are other people's thoughts on this. Thanks for your time.

[spenoza]

I don't think anyone has paid any attention to bit-ness since the Saturn/N64/PSX generation. The N64 tried to tout bitness and people decided ultimately it didn't matter. From then on it was game over on people counting bits.

[thrush]

I believe you are correct TEF: most recent consoles are like the Turbo in that their bitness varies depending on where you measure them.

I also think Spenoza is basically right.  I travel in both console gamer and PC gamer crowds and one thing I have learned when listening to them dis on one another is that most gamers have a very limited understanding of how hardware works or what it is for.  Larger numbers sound impressive to people who don't know what those numbers signify.  The reality is that each platform is going to have its own strengths and weaknesses due to issues other than bus width or processor speed.

Beyond that, I have personally always thought that games should be judged by how fun they are.  I don't really care how pretty the graphics are if playing feels like a chore.  Of course, I suppose pretty + fun is better than ugly + fun.  ^__^

[Arkhan]

the bit wars were stupid from the get go.

Atari 2600 is better than Atari Jaguar, lol.

Theres your case in point.

[_joshuaTurbo]

I don't really care how pretty the graphics are if playing feels like a chore.  Of course, I suppose pretty + fun is better than ugly + fun.  ^__^

yea, SNES and Gens had Rise of the Robots!  O_O

I personally see the 'prettiest' turbob games as just as pretty or prettier than SNES and GENS games.

Turbo - Lords of Thunder, Shape Shifter, Beyond Shadowgate, Sapphire, Drac X
Gens- Sonic 3, Gunstar Heroes, VectorMan, Zero Tolerance, Comix Zone
SNES- Donkey Kong Country, Star Fox, Yoshi's Island, Contra III, Mystical Ninja

Their all different, and have their strengths and weaknesses.  There are shit looking Turbob, SNES, and Genesis games all around.  Some idiot says "SNES is more powerful!" lets see the Genesis version of Pitfighter vs. the SNES version...... or Faceball on Turbob handling 4 player split screen compared to the pathetic SNES 'SUPER" Faceball 2000 with only a 2 player mode.....

The last two gens were generally 128 bit right?  So PS3 = Dreamcast.  Well, 'cept DC with all the homebrew/ import games and awesome library can smash the f*cking PS3 and its buggy online service and no games to pieces.

[exile]

I don't believe that bits are important anymore. Seems like the most important factor game need or have is DLC Lots of gamers jumped to the 360 version of GTIV because they knew the DLC was going there first. Multiplayer is a big one too. Graphics don't really matter to the pick up and play crowd either.

@Turbostar
Why do you compare the Dc to the PS3? Is it because they are basically in 3rd place to the Wii and 360? What type of games to you feel the Ps-3 is Lacking?

[Arkhan]

and no games to pieces.

citation needed.

[blueraven]

the bit wars were stupid from the get go.

Atari 2600 is better than Atari Jaguar, lol.

Theres your case in point.

Quoted For Truth

[spenoza]

The best version of Tempest 2K crushes everything I played on the 2600 except possibly Combat (2 player, of course).

[Arkhan]

The best version of Tempest 2K crushes everything I played on the 2600 except possibly Combat (2 player, of course).

I'd take the classic lineup of 2600 games over the ONE game on the jag that is decent...

[blueraven]

Isn't there only one decent Jag Game: Alien Vs. Predator?

[_joshuaTurbo]

Why do you compare the Dc to the PS3? Is it because they are basically in 3rd place to the Wii and 360? What type of games to you feel the Ps-3 is Lacking?

Comparing the first console released in the last generation, and the latest one in this current gen.

Exclusives.  You can preach about Uncharted and MGS4 all day long.. but that just isn't enough.

citation needed.

Lots of great games mind you, its just that all of them (except a few) are also on another console that is less expensive, and there are more players online at any given time.

Example- I LOVE NFL 2k5, shit when Madden sucked up the exclusive license to the NFL, football games died to me.  I can STILL go on XBL with a 360 and find players on NFL 2K5's servers playing exhibition and Season play. 

The PS3 just doesn't have that.

[vestcoat]

Isn't there only one decent Jag Game: Alien Vs. Predator?

Man, I love underdog systems, but I'll take the 32X or 3DO over the stinkin' Jaguar.  I had one for a while and not only is the library pretty dismal, but the console itself and the few good games are annoyingly expensive.

[blueraven]

Isn't there only one decent Jag Game: Alien Vs. Predator?

Man, I love underdog systems, but I'll take the 32X or 3DO over the stinkin' Jaguar.  I had one for a while and not only is the library pretty dismal, but the console itself and the few good games are annoyingly expensive.

I agree. I had one for about 2 months as well back around 2000? or so. This was also my gripe and after beating Gex and AvP I was bored, and traded it towards a Sega CDX.

[Arkhan]

Exclusives.  You can preach about Uncharted and MGS4 all day long.. but that just isn't enough.

You're right.  lets add in Folklore, the NIS/Atlus RPGs, Time Crisis 4, Catherine, Heavenly Sword, GOW, and some other stuff

Whats the 360 exclusives that really make it so great?

Lots of great games mind you, its just that all of them (except a few) are also on another console that is less expensive, and there are more players online at any given time.

Screw online, and both consoles are dirt cheap now.  

Example- I LOVE NFL 2k5, shit when Madden sucked up the exclusive license to the NFL, football games died to me.  I can STILL go on XBL with a 360 and find players on NFL 2K5's servers playing exhibition and Season play.  
The PS3 just doesn't have that.

Oh no you cant play a crappy football game online, DANG.