The Wii U

[Necromancer]

We're on a classic gaming forum and we're worried about system specs for making games fun to play? 

Last time I checked better visuals, more accurate physics, and better AI do make games more fun to play.  If none of that stuff mattered, then what exactly is the point of the Wii U or Wii for that matter?  The only things they add to game play are the controllers, which could've just been added to the GameCube.

Besides, I just said the specs were unimpressive; it'll all come down to the GPU.  I haven't seen anything recent on the GPU, but it's been rumored to be based on the Radeon 4000 series cards, which'll be three generations old by then.

[Arkhan]

We're on a classic gaming forum and we're worried about system specs for making games fun to play? 

Last time I checked better visuals, more accurate physics, and better AI do make games more fun to play.  If none of that stuff mattered, then what exactly is the point of the Wii U or Wii for that matter?  The only things they add to game play are the controllers, which could've just been added to the GameCube.

Besides, I just said the specs were unimpressive; it'll all come down to the GPU.  I haven't seen anything recent on the GPU, but it's been rumored to be based on the Radeon 4000 series cards, which'll be three generations old by then.

Nintendo always releases crap thats basically dated.

Somehow, enough tards go googoo gaagaaaaadurhhrrr over it and shell out the cash.

I am one of those people.

Then I play it and go GODDAMNIT and play PCE because it never makes me angry.

[nectarsis]

via: http://www.the-magicbox.com/

RUMOR: Nintendo has tentatively set the launch date of Wii U on November 18 in North America and November 25 in Japan, according to a memo from Japanese retailer Media Land.


RUMOR:  GamesIndustry reported that a number of anonymous developers said that Wii U does not have the graphical horsepower to compete with current generation console Xbox 360 and PS3, despite being able to output video in HD format. One reason is that Wii U doesn't have as many shaders, it is not as capable, overall it can't quite keep up to the same level as PS3 or 360. Another concern is that only one tablet controller can be active and it must be within certain distance to the console, which means multiple players on the same console must use non-tablet controller and leading to different experience. Another developer suggests that PS3 and PS Vita can do what the Wii U and tablet controller can do already.

[Arkhan]

sick burn.

[DragonmasterDan]

Last time I checked better visuals, more accurate physics, and better AI do make games more fun to play.  If none of that stuff mattered, then what exactly is the point of the Wii U or Wii for that matter?  The only things they add to game play are the controllers, which could've just been added to the GameCube.

Better visuals, more accurate physics and better AI give you more options to design better games. But those things don't necessarily make games more fun to play, they simply give you greater opportunities to design better games. Having more colors and a larger canvas gives a painter a greater opportunity to create a better painting, but those things alone don't make the art more beautiful.

In any event, from what I'm reading we don't know if it will be more or less powerful than the Xbox 360 or PS3.
http://kotaku.com/5899125/nobody-knows-how-powerful-the-wii-u-actually-is

[Arkhan]

It's a Kotaku link, therefore its worthless to click on and read!

Power is important for better games.  If it weren't we'd all be playing really f*cking fun Atari 2600 games w/ really "innovative" controllers.

Controller gimmicks are a poor substitute for next-gen technology.  

The things going to be a wimpy console like the Wii.  It's behind the curve and riding on its gimmicks and hipster trendiness to get by.  The really great games for it won't come out for like, 2-3 years after it launches (like the Wii!)

If this system weren't from Nintendo, and were coming from someone else (Sega?) it would probably get laughed out of town.

It'll do well like everything else from Nintendo, but still be lackluster when stuck next to an Xbox 720, or a PS4.  

Nintendo's a bit like the socially retarded kid that starts wearing the latest fashion trend AFTER it's out of style.

It's 2012 and Nintendo just put on a pair of JNCO jeans for the first time.  Basically.

What I find funny too is alot of the games on Wii that I really like, could've been released on Playstation 1 almost, or even PS2.  They don't visually impress me much.  They're fun at least.

Muramasa is pretty.  It could've been done on a PS2 though.

[guyjin]

What I find funny too is alot of the games on Wii that I really like, could've been released on Playstation 1 almost, or even PS2.  They don't visually impress me much.  They're fun at least.

I think you're viewing the PS2's abilities through nostalgia-colored glasses. It probably doesn't help that in some cheap ports, graphics were taken directly from the PS2 version of a game.

it also doesn't help that Wii games tend to use deceptively simple graphics. Consider the Mii heads: simple, right? Not really. Rendering a teardrop shape takes lots and lots of polygons, and putting animated textures on it is even more complicated. and there are multiple such shapes it has to render.

[SuperGrafx16]

Besides, I just said the specs were unimpressive; it'll all come down to the GPU.  I haven't seen anything recent on the GPU, but it's been rumored to be based on the Radeon 4000 series cards, which'll be three generations old by then.

I so very much wish that Wii U's custom GPU was *based* on the RV770 aka Radeon HD 4870/4850.  That would provide 1 ~ 1.2 TeraFLops of shader performance which would be 4-5x that of the Xbox 360's Xenos GPU.  

Sadly, it seems that Nintendo is going for a much lower-end GPU within the Radeon 4000 family, based on all the recent reports.

Still, the Zelda and Bird demos showed that Wii U can put up decent current-gen (360/PS3) graphics with perhaps better lighting.

In the end, of course, it all comes down to the software/games and services/apps that Nintendo and 3rd parties will provide the Wii U.

I cannot freaking wait until E3  ^__^

[SMF]

Hell as far as I'm concerned wii u is a must have just for Pikman 3.

[Nando]

I want to see Mario in HD, other than on a Dolphin that is

[TR0N]

The wii u has a release date and price to.
http://www.money.cnn.com/2012/09/13/technology/wii-u-price-release-date

Hmmm man i want to pass up on this console up but it's getting monster hunter 3 ultimate,i don't know but i know i won't get it at it's release.

[SMF]

I couldnt pass it up, Im pumped got my preorder in at BestBuy and ready to pick it up in store November 18th.

[TR0N]

I couldnt pass it up, Im pumped got my preorder in at BestBuy and ready to pick it up in store November 18th.

I heard it's getting bayonetta 2 as well another reason why,i hate to pass up the wii u since it will be exclusive to the console.

[Digi.k]

Yup I will most likely jump on.. I am like 5 years late on the wii train but I got one in the end and even with the dated graphics the games still draw me in..

With that Wii U controller I am confused to whether I should buy a 3DS XL or not now as the wii U controller itself looks like a portable gaming device..  and I want a 3DS XL just because I love animal crossing.

it does bring back memories of Sega's dreamcast and the VMU units

[Nando]

TIME TO GO BUY A SUPAH INEXPENSIVE WII!!! WOOOHOO!!! Can't wait to try some GC games too