The Wii U

[Nando]

Can you play those on the tablet alone or are you still tethered to the TV?

Still tethered to the TV because in order to access Virtual Console games you have to go to Wii mode. You can't access them at all from the WiiU. That's apparently supposed to change at some point, but I have no idea when.

Hopefully they do change that, I can understand Wii games not being able to be played that way, but VC games totally should.

[Arkhan]

The stuff on the internet I keep seeing is definitely whiny.   A bunch of stupid know it all bloggers and morons crying about dumbshit without ever talking about the key component:  The games themselves.


Also, I dunno, the stuff really isn't that slow over here.  I'll go check again when I get a chance today, but I swear it didn't go ultra slow and make me want to go on twitter and tell the planet.

[KingDrool]

I know this is completely against your personality, but I think you're being overly-critical. If your job was to write about the ins and outs of a console, are you supposed to ignore discussing the things you don't like about it? I'm no fan of the so-called "gaming press", but pointing out the WiiU's shortcomings in the context of "here's what the WiiU does well and not so well" is kind of the whole point.

@Nando: The fact that you have to go into Wii mode to access Virtual Console games is pretty stupid. I realize there's supposedly an update coming, so I'll reserve judgment until then. But if the update doesn't allow seamless play of your VC titles w/out having to f*ck with Wii mode or - god forbid - purchasing them over again, I'll be really annoyed.

[KingDrool]

On a far more positive note, this is why MiiVerse is awesome:
http://kotaku.com/5962331/the-weird-insane-often-funny-art-of-miiverse

Also, speaking of MiiVerse, I discovered yesterday that if you get stuck/have a question/or just find something cool in a game, you can post a screenshot from your game pad to MiiVerse and get tips or whatever. That is a f*cking awesome feature! All you have to do is hit the Home button, select MiiVerse, and then post a new message. Then, click on the Image icon, and the screenshot will automatically appear. So cool...

[Nando]

so Nintendo is really trying to do their own social media bit eh? I like that Mii verse feature, reads pretty cool.  The art is just funny as hell.

[Arkhan]

I know this is completely against your personality, but I think you're being overly-critical. If your job was to write about the ins and outs of a console, are you supposed to ignore discussing the things you don't like about it? I'm no fan of the so-called "gaming press", but pointing out the WiiU's shortcomings in the context of "here's what the WiiU does well and not so well" is kind of the whole point.

Some of these people, it isn't their job.  It's just their self-given task for the evening.

and I've seen way too many THIS IS WHY IT SUCKS articles and posts.   These people aren't being very balanced with their jive.   It's a bunch of whining followed by ZERO comments about games themselves.

f*ck those people.  Get them off the internet and throw them in a hole somewhere.

It's the height of stupidity to write an entire article or post complaining about a game console without mentioning any games.


also, yes, Miiverse is awesome.

Funny Kotaku posted it, because usually those f*ckfarts are the ones complaining or posting some srsly tarded crap.

[Nando]

so speaking of games. Mario is awesome, or so I have heard. Even if some of it is the same old same old. What are some other worthwhile launch games? That scribblenauts games looks like fun too.

[Arkhan]

so speaking of games. Mario is awesome, or so I have heard. Even if some of it is the same old same old. What are some other worthwhile launch games? That scribblenauts games looks like fun too.

All of the launch games I've tried so far are actually pretty solid.

Mario is extremely fun.  It gives you that same fuzzy, exciting feeling as Mario 3 or SMW.

ZombiU's complaints are thrown out there by FPStards.   This is basically Resident Evil in first person.  It's slow paced and hard.   It's a great launch title trying something new.

Scribblenauts is bitchin as f*ck.  Its scribblenauts.

Epic Mickey is another excellent platformer game.

That's what I've tried so far, and its better than the launch 360, PS3, Wii, 3DS, and even the Vita launches so far.

You basically get right into playing without having to f*ck around.

[KingDrool]

Nintendo Land is great fun, and I already talked about Mario before.

I'm really wanting to get Scribblenauts, but not sure if I want to shell out $60 for a new version of a game that costs $1 on the iPad. I also want to grab ZombiU.

OH! Someone asked about Rayman Legends. There are demos in stores, and if you liked Rayman Origins, this is more of that, but even better. The game comes out next year, I think.

[Joe Redifer]

Ha ha Arkhan I typed most of the things I did in the tone I did because I knew you'd go apeshit trying to defend it. But still, most of what I said definitely has some truth to it. Stop being blind to the flaws, many of which can probably be fixed with future massive OS updates. Nothing wrong with liking the system, but it has a ways to go before it is equal in quality to the PS3. The graphics in the games I played are lower resolution than the PS3 and 360 stuff. NSMBU should look as crisp as Rayman on the PS3, but it does not. I'd be surprised if it were actually being rendered in more than something like 540 or 640p at most and then upscaled. Like I believe I already may have said, it doesn't look any crisper than the gamepad screen. Jaggies galore.

[Arkhan]

Ha ha Arkhan I typed most of the things I did in the tone I did because I knew you'd go apeshit trying to defend it.

Oh really? I couldn't tell.  You're a master of trickery.

But still, most of what I said definitely has some truth to it. Stop being blind to the flaws, many of which can probably be fixed with future massive OS updates. Nothing wrong with liking the system, but it has a ways to go before it is equal in quality to the PS3.

I'm not blind to flaws.  I am dismissive of them because they're insignificant kinks.  They're not even worth griping about.  Especially the "Top 10 things I hate" style crap online.   <1week into the systems life, the only real things you should complain about are:

1) The games suck and are not fun (Which is completely false at this point.  The launch library is pretty kickass.  Much better than the 360 and PS3 had at launch, for example).

Of course it has a ways to go before its equal in quality to a system that's been out for as long as the PS3.   Duhhhh.  

When I see gripes about games for the Wii U, that's fine.  I don't mind.  It's acceptable and I probably won't jump to defense mode.  

Griping about stupid shit like I CAN'T DO THE THING IN THE MENU YET or THIS FEATURE IS DUMB its like, who cares.  Did you buy the Wii U to play video games or to fingerf*ck yourself in a bunch of menus all day?   I got it so I could play games.  If the thing had 0 menus and just went straight into games, I'd be fine.  I bet everyone else would have strokes.

Complaints that give off the air that you just aren't paying attention are also pretty funny.  You make it sound like you want to be spoon fed everything like a 5 year old sometimes, and other times you assert that you are smart as f*ck.   Little kids figured out boost mode in NSMBU.  It's in the instructions probably.  I can't be sure of this because I didn't read the manual.  I just used the giant on-screen cue to learn of this feature.  

Same with the friendslist.   Found it by exploring the on screen menus that have text saying what things are.  Tunnel vision isn't a valid excuse for complaints.  

I don't even know what the f*ck WiiTV is exactly, to be honest.   I also don't give a f*ck about all these MiiVerse problems since I didn't get a Wii U to socialize with tools on the internet while I am jumping on turtles.

I also honestly don't feel like the menu is slow and awful and makes me want to kill myself.  It certainly isn't slow enough that I want to get online and piss and moan about it.   If I don't want to complain about it, chances are its not that bad.  I fire the f*cker up, and before my TV is even fully activated, the Wii U is already making Mario noises and shit.


Maybe that's it.   I don't notice because I am waiting for my TV to do shit.  

I should go online and tweet about how my Sony TV takes too long to turn on because it can sense that I am using a Nintendo product.

The graphics in the games I played are lower resolution than the PS3 and 360 stuff. NSMBU should look as crisp as Rayman on the PS3, but it does not. I'd be surprised if it were actually being rendered in more than something like 540 or 640p at most and then upscaled. Like I believe I already may have said, it doesn't look any crisper than the gamepad screen. Jaggies galore.

Hmm. I don't see jagged stuff in NSMBU.  I spotted a few graphical herpderps on the world map at one point but it wasn't anything you don't see in current PS3 games.  Clipping hiccups are normal as f*ck.  


Trine 2 looks great as well, as does that origami bird flying game, Scribblenauts, and even ZombiU.  For launch games, they look great.  It's only going to get better from here, and considering how nice the stuff already is, I'd say that's a good sign.

[Joe Redifer]

Oh really? I couldn't tell.

Again responding exactly as I predicted!

Are you playing in standard definition? Or are you sitting far away from your TV? Lots of jaggies in Mario. And the point with the friend list is that you shouldn't even have to go turn it on. It's an unnecessary step. But you seem to be really emotional about defending it, so oh well. And as for the menu being slow we're not talking about the initial boot time.

Duhhhh.

Are you one of those 12 year olds on Xbox Live who always talks about my mom or tries to insult her? I feel like I'm talking to a 5th grader. But again, it's what you do who you are. That's your defense mechanism whenever someone criticizes something you like.

[Arkhan]

Again responding exactly as I predicted!

I'm glad you feel accomplished that you can predict exactly how someone will post.  You're a real f*ckin' Sherlock here, guessing how people with 9000+ posts will respond.    Big deal.  Do you want a cookie?  It's not impressive.  You don't see me patting myself on the back when you post in the same predictable, patented "JoeRedifer, the clueless retard." manner. 

Are you playing in standard definition? Or are you sitting far away from your TV? Lots of jaggies in Mario. And the point with the friend list is that you shouldn't even have to go turn it on. It's an unnecessary step. But you seem to be really emotional about defending it, so oh well. And as for the menu being slow we're not talking about the initial boot time.

no, I am playing on a 55" Sony Bravia.  I am sitting about 4 feet away from the screen.  How about you?  It looks great over here.  Everyone I've spoken to except for you seems to agree.  That puts you in the minority, so I dismiss your criticism.   You can see a clear difference between the Wii era Mario games and NSMBU.   Shit looks excellent.  As do the other games I've tried.    What games have you tried?  Or, are you still trying to wrap your head around how to turn the thing off and on without yanking the cord out of the outlet?

Also, I understand that we are not talking about the boot time.  My point is, I don't notice much about the menus because I am too busy playing GAMES ASAP on it as opposed to fingerblasting myself while complaining about stupid shit.   What kind of gamer focuses on dumb shit that is irrelevant to playing the video games?   Retarded ones.    My goal when I turn on a game console is to get the game going as close to immediately as possible so I can play. 

From what I did experience of all the menus, especially the shop ones, they weren't slow to me.  I was like "hey this is neat.  I might investigate these menus in greater detail later, but I really want to play a f*cking video game instead of jackoff in these menus watching preview trailers all day.  Oh! I better turn this buddy list on real fast though!  Man that was easy.   I wonder what kind of jackass would get stumped by this feature."

Speaking of the friends list, some people don't want to be social.  I know this is hard to grasp from someone who's got such a strong media presence like you do, but there ARE people who really don't give a f*ck about interacting with the rest of the world while gaming.  That's my guess as to why you have to go activate it.  The gripers so far are mostly people who have their dicks so far up into social networking's snatch that they're poking tonsils.

This concept is very much like how you have to activate the Facebook stuff, or how you have to turn AIM on and voluntarily make yourself visible.   It makes sense, and it didn't f*cking hurt to turn it on, so why even bring it up?    I'm not emotional about anything.   This is just how I tend to talk about things (It's also how a lot of people in my age bracket talk.  Hah. You are old.).  It is frustrating how stupid some people are with regards to video game consoles and their features.  "THIS FEATURE DOESN'T APPLY EXACTLY TO ME SO I BETTER f*ckING COMPLAIN ABOUT IT".    FFS, STFU.   Play games or gtfo.  Seriously.

Like that assclown who posted about how Mario games should be.  f*ck that guy.  What the hell does he know?  "The mushroom kingdom should be different with each Mario game".  f*ck off, duder.

I feel like I'm talking to a 5th grader. But again, it's what you do who you are.

well, with snippets like this, I feel like I am talking to an inbred autistic child.

That's your defense mechanism whenever someone criticizes something you like.

No.  See, that is where you mistake things, as usual, because you never pay attention.  This is not a "defense mechanism".   This is just me posting my usual, abrasive response to someone complaining about stupid shit.   Your usual is to make comments that shout out "Hi, I am Joe Redifer.  I'm a f*cking retard and never pay attention to anything."   You have a pretty solid habit of being completely oblivious.  I can think of at least 5 times.

Seriously Joe, you're like HURHUARHAURHAURH THE BIG TOUCH CONTROLLER AINT DO NOTHIN IN MARIO CAUSE f*ck.

They have a gigantic goddamn picture showing you that it does something.  So the fact that you missed this means you're a retard.  That or you're just f*cking around, which still makes you a retard.

All the people that needed to refer to the googlemachines to get the friendslist to work are also f*cking retarded. 


Everyone is a retard.  f*ck yeah.

So seriously now, what do you think of the ACTUAL GAMES.  Not all the stupid foofoo shit that is irrelevant.

[Joe Redifer]

LOL!

The games are OK. Mario is Mario. Sonic Racing All Stars seems unfinished. I'll have to try the 360 or PS3 version to see if it's better. It probably is. I haven't touched Nintendo Land yet.

[Arkhan]

You should try ZombiU.

Though, you have to pay attention to two screens at once, so that might throw you for a loop.